Submission? No problem! (as long as it’s an Alpha)

Posted: September 10, 2014 in Life, Men, Wife

Candace Cameron has been married to an NHL player for seventeen years. Does anyone think that she’s struggling to submit in this case?

Whether Christian or not….women still want the same things. Because they are still wired the same way. There always seems to be, however, an effort among the religious to convince all others that their motivation is their love for God. Could that be true? Of course it could be, far be it from me to presume that I would know someone’s heart.

What I find strange and curious beyond belief, however, is that rarely do I see a woman’s desire to submit seem to hold up if her husband’s not an Alpha. If indeed her motivation is to obey Christ, it should be as the Bible teaches, submission to her husband, not just her Alpha husband.

lisa-whelchel-smiling-660Remember Lisa Whelchel, aka Blair Warner from The Facts of Life? She went from this: http://heavenlyhomemakers.com/chatting-with-lisa-whelchel-about-marriage

to this:  http://global.christianpost.com/news/lisa-whelchel-secretly-divorces-husband-after-23-years-81921/

…..so what gives?

I’ve got a new perspective.

The lie has once again been exposed as being the diametric opposite of the truth.

BetaGinas and White KnuckleHeads still make every effort to pedestalize females into these creatures that are “inherently morally superior” and “more self-controlled” and way more deeply spiritual than males are.

Yeah. Crap.

It’s the other way around, which is why most of the heroes in the Bible are men. Who’s more likely to be committed to their faith, regardless if there’s a pleasure component in it or not, and give their lives for what they believe? Men are. Who’s more likely to hang in there with a marriage that’s going south to try and salvage it? Men are. Who’s more likely to, just in general, take the tenets of whatever faith they daniel-1have more seriously? Men are.

I told you before men, you are the prize.

I’d link to a blog that I think may offer a counterpoint, and showcase women that are at least trying to make an effort to submit to their Beta husbands, but I’ve been asked not to. The husband of the wife that runs this blog, his words to me were, “my blog isn’t the kind of blog that they’d like to get traffic from.”

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  1. ar10308 says:

    She married an NHL player.

  2. lgrobins says:

    Good job. I have been saying this for awhile now. Please show me the godly, submissive woman’s blog who is married to an omega. Its always crickets. Good point about Candace too. Another one on the submissive bandwagon but looky, she has an athletic stud. Like you say, I won’t judge hearts, but put her with a much lower ranking man and see if we get the same zeal for submission. So, I take cautiously anyone who spouts godly submission while also bragging about their stud husband. What might make it more a godly submission is if she wasn’t attracted. To claim godly submission when married to an alpha is all rather too easy, isn’t it?

    • What might make it more a godly submission is if she wasn’t attracted. To claim godly submission when married to an alpha is all rather too easy, isn’t it?

      Exactly right on both counts.

    • infowarrior1 says:

      To be fair both men and women should choose spouses they are burning with passion with to save each other a lifetime of misery.

      • Elspeth says:

        I second infowarrior. I don’t see how marrying someone you’re passionate about, remaining faithful to that person, and submitting to him is a bad thing. Simply because she’s passionate about him her submission isn’t credible?

        I’d also add that Candace Cameron married her husband when she was 20 years old. This is highly relevant since most women (not all but most) who delay marriage get around a bit before they settle for the guy they married. A guy they would have looked at through rose colored glasses a decade earlier now looks like a life raft they settled for.

        The problem isn’t that women can only submit to alphas. (sorry, I’m still not clear on what that looks like outside of a man who is famous, powerful and rich but I’ll go with it). The whole notion of “alpha” is a relative term anyway.

        The problem is that women have been effectively ruined and so cannot appreciate the wonderful qualities that their average, “beta” husband adds to their life and they also don’t realize that they are nothing special and as such should be very grateful for the fact that he married her, baggage and all.

        @RPSMF:

        I just popped in to see what you write about since you graced my blog with your presence. I’ll add you to my feedly but I won’t say anything because I’m trying to learn how to shut up. Especially in certain venues. But I do appreciate the contributions you made to the conversation over at my place.

        Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

  3. deti says:

    This is why a man should strive to improve himself as much as possible. Her sexual attraction to him makes it much easier for her to submit. A woman will reflexively submit to a man she is sexually attracted to.

    • Her sexual attraction to him makes it much easier for her to submit.
      A woman will reflexively submit to a man she is sexually attracted to.

      EXACTLY. That’s it exactly.
      Learn Game. Become more Alpha. Develop more of what you have inside of you, but not for *her,* for *you.*
      And there’s something about loving yourself that makes a woman have to have you.

      • lgrobins says:

        This is mostly a taboo topic in the sphere, to suggest that a man can do something that will make a woman submit. There is a whole camp out there who seem to think men don’t have to put one ounce of effort into themselves until women first submit and that it is her submission that causes him to take action, to be a leader, more dominant. I’ve pointed out before that this dynamic really amounts to the woman leading as the man sits around and waits for the woman to initiate with submission. Women just aren’t that magical. A woman is not going to be make a man a leader with submissive charms, if he first doesn’t want to be a leader himself.

      • deti says:

        Laura:

        A man cannot do things to “make a woman submit”. He can do things that make him more confident and dominant; and thus more attractive. Those characteristics make it more likely a woman will submit to him and make it easier for a woman to choose to submit to him. But they aren’t silver bullets. In the end, she has to choose to submit.

  4. deti says:

    There are too many lessons from the Christian celebrity world to ignore. Lisa Whelchel is divorced (after marrying a man she didn’t love and having three kids by him).

    Amy Grant is divorced. Paula White is divorced.

    They might be Christian women, but they’re women nonetheless.

    Men, your Christianity (and hers) are no guarantees whatsoever that she will not blow up your life. She can be as devout as St. Teresa; but if she decides your marriage is done, it’s done. End of story.

    • Lets look at that:
      -Lisa Whelchel – Assuming that he was a BetaBoy, or Churchinized & denutted. After she had the kids, she had no more use for him.
      -Amy Grant – Holy crap Gary Chapman is the BETA KING. Of course Amy wanted Vince Gill.
      -Paula White – Still not sure what happened there…Randy might have been jealous, or just wanted to sleep with some new women and Paula wasn’t having it.

      Hmmm….I wonder where we get the idea that being a Christian doesn’t matter to a woman if the man is not an Alpha….hmmmmm…..

      • deti says:

        Lisa Whelchel all but admitted she didn’t love Steve Cauble, an assistant pastor at Jack Hayford’s “The Church on the Way” in California. Hayford set her up with Cauble. She married him because it was “the right thing to do”. But she never loved the man. After her last child was out of high school, she divorced Cauble. She wasted 23 years of that man’s life, acting as if she loved the man. From photos, Cauble looks like a nice guy. Typical pastor type — unassuming, affable, friendly, kind. Probably not one to stand up for himself or a “get shit done” kind of guy.

        Amy Grant? Chapman just lost out to a more famous and more talented, more alpha alpha.

        Paula White? Her solo “ministry” took off; Randy’s didn’t. He was holding her back. Simple as that.

  5. Lisa Whelchel all but admitted she didn’t love Steve Cauble, an assistant pastor at Jack Hayford’s “The Church on the Way” in California. Hayford set her up with Cauble. She married him because it was “the right thing to do”. But she never loved the man. After her last child was out of high school, she divorced Cauble. She wasted 23 years of that man’s life, acting as if she loved the man.

    Amy Grant? Chapman just lost out to a more famous and more talented, more alpha alpha.

    Paula White? Her solo “ministry” took off; Randy’s didn’t. He was holding her back. Simple as that.

    See, now I’m seeing justification for my thoughts on Divorce Law, because as it stands, it’s exactly backwards.
    -Lisa Whelchel ought to pay HIM alimony for wasting all those years, when he *could* have been building with someone that was actually interested in him.
    -Both Amy Grant and Paula White should’ve paid for the privilege of leaving. They wanted to get out of the contract, so they need to pay.

    “Thanks for the years & the children Beta Boys, but I’mma go bang me some new Alpha meat now!”

  6. lgrobins says:

    Deti,
    You know what I meant. I had a comment months ago at Dal’s where I used the word “inspire”, I think that is better.

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