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Why Should Men Propose?

Posted: September 12, 2014 in Marriage, Men, Women
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Man proposesSo I’m trying to figure out why it is that a man today should propose.

And my basic question is this: who stands to gain the most from a marriage?

A woman will gain his last name, total control over their children, a default assumption of innocence in any marital disputes, control over his health and end of life decisions, half of his income in the present, half of it for the future, alimony, child support, access to his pension, and because she gets the children, she gets the house. She can also jail him at any time with accusations of marital rape, or abuse, or exposing pornography to the children, or whatever the heck she wants. Guaranteed and enforced by law. She can even get pregnant by another man, openly cuckolding him, and still force her husband to pay.

So why does HE have to ask HER?

Cash CarWhat does he gain? Absolutely no guarantee of virginity, chastity, fidelity, respect, domestic skill, half of HER income, nothing. What’s hers is hers, and what’s his is hers. A woman has absolutely no legal or social requirement to bring any wifely qualities to the table, nor behave like a wife once she legally becomes one.

A man asking a woman to give him her hand in marriage, is asking for the honor of being put in the worst position he could possibly be in. A position with no rights, all of those belong to her, he just has responsibilities. He is also tying himself to one vagina, Marry Meand the owner of that vagina will use it to control him, as she does not need sex as much as he does. When she needs verbal release, she can go elsewhere. When she needs attention and compliments, she can go elsewhere. When she needs finances, she can go elsewhere.

When he needs sex, he JUST HAS HER. People will say, what about masturbation or porn, but you don’t need a wife for those things. You need a wife for live, real time, in person love making. Which will of course be at her discretion, not his, even though she gets her benefits daily and guaranteed.

So I’ll ask one more time……why, exactly, should a man propose to a woman?

SHE should be proposing to HIM.

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More proof that Red Pill Truths are indeed accurate, Ravens running back Ray Rice is planning to address the media at 3 p.m. Friday for the first time since he was charged with knockingI give you exhibit 238392232nthX1239 to the umpteenth power, Janay Rice:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/09/janay-rice-response-instagram_n_5790160.html

janay rice

flushingSo, Manosphere articles, posts, blogs, and books can pretty much be summed up as always falling into one of three categories:

1) Female Hypergamy

2) The Male Need for Game

3) Watching 1) and 2) play out in real life

But I’m here to restate this question: How does it all end? Or, more accurately, what is the next Big Thing in male/female relations?

We’ve examined, over and over again, the actual and accurate basics of the Female Imperative. We’ve debunked, time and time again, the false claims of Feminism. More and more men are awakening to the Blue Bill Betaness inside of them, and realizing what their prospects are without nutting/Gaming up. More men are adopting some level of MGTOW, after seeing the awful deal that is Marriage 2.0. That’s not what I’m talking about right now. What I’m talking about now is, what will the next huge cultural shift be? What’s the future that results from all of this going to look like?

Will it be filled with frustrated Betas that finally decide to become MGTOW? Will there simply be less males in the world in NGWOTgeneral? Will the U.S. regress to an earlier time, like the return of Finishing School for women and male chivalry, or go extreme hardcore women-are-property like many countries in the Middle East? Or will enough men with enough power realize that shipping in beautiful wife trained women from other countries will shine an even greater light on how worthless the 21st century American female is? Or will we just go straight on Logan’s Run and say that nobody gets to live past the age of 30?

There aren’t really any stats that I’m aware of that track the number of married Beta men, as being a “Beta Man” isn’t an easily measurable demographic. So let’s look at this article from last year to examine the number of weddings in total:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/17/marriage-trends-demographics/2424641/

From 2007 to 2009, the number of marriages each year fell from 2.197 million to 2.080 million. The report estimates that more than 175,000 weddings have been postponed or foregone since the recession began.

Sociologist and demographer Wendy Manning, co-director of the National Center for Family & Marriage Research at Bowling Green State University in Bowling Green, Ohio, says the projected wedding increases “might be overly optimistic.”

“They seem to think the number of weddings is going to increase. That’s possible,” she says. But “not all those marriages are going to be among those young people entering into their first marriages. The report is focusing on the Echo Baby Boomers entering into their marrying years, which is true, but my issue is that one-third of marriages are remarriages, and the remarriages are not among the young people.”

A report based on 2010 data issued by her center last year found that 31% of all people who married that year were remarrying.

The new forecast predicts the marriage rate to remain at the record low of 6.8 marriages per 1,000 population for 2013 (where it’s been since 2009) and notes that the rate was 7.3 in 2007, just before the downturn. In addition, the report predicts that when these couples take their first vows, they’ll probably be older than brides and grooms in the past. By 2015, the company predicts, the average age at first marriage will rise to 29.2 for men and 27.1 for women, up from 28.2 for men and 26.1 for women in 2010.

 

6.8 marriages per 1,000 people, with most of the remarriages being among the young, with everybody pushing 30 before getting married, with same sex marriages stats not even being fully tabulated yet. And now, the number of divorces:

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/marriage-divorce.htm

Marriage and Divorce

Data are for the U.S.

  • Number of marriages: 2,118,000
  • Marriage rate: 6.8 per 1,000 total population
  • Divorce rate: 3.6 per 1,000 population (44 reporting States and D.C.

That’s an astonishingly low number of people even braving the waters of marriage, with over half of them wanting out, with women initiating said outness 60-70% of the time:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201311/do-men-or-women-file-divorce-more-often

http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com/faq/emotional/who-initiates-divorce-men-or-women.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/10357829/Why-do-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men.html

So if we’re assuming a 5% Alpha Rate, that means that 2 million or so of these marriages(when factoring in Gammas and Deltas) are Beta Marriages. Everyone keeps claiming that the current climate is unsustainable, for genetic, social, and economic reasons(and yes I know those stats are not broken down by age or ethnic group). They say that neither Beta Men nor the State are going to be willing to keep furnishing women with all the rights, all the property, all the education, full control over the children, and all of the income forever, 042014_marrying_807with men paying the bill either through taxes, alimony, or child support.

So what’s the next step?

Every state rushing to legalize prostitution? Doubtful, but if you want to read an experienced perspective on that, check out The Honest Courtesan.

My personal feeling is that Polygamy will begin to surge in the U.S.; with women experiencing less and less available men, they will be more honest about their desire to share an Alpha Male than be stuck somewhere with a schlubbing Beta.

There also might be room for Marriage 3.0….something that on the surface seems more equitable for men, but again, it will be aimed primarily at the Beta Men still wanting to marry.

So what do Manospherians think? What will the next big Cultural Shift be?next-big-thing-ahead

 

Options

Posted: September 8, 2014 in Marriage, Men, Wife, Women

wedSo I was inspired by this post to ask this question:

What are the wife options for a contemporary man interested in marriage?

1. Finding a Virgin

Pretty much unless you can cozy up to a family like The Duggars, you don’t really have a high probability of finding a woman that’s kept herself pure. There were some interesting comments over at Dalrock’s after I asked a question about whether most virgins were 1-3s in terms of SMV or 7-10s. The general pushback was, that I shouldn’t assume that there weren’t any people out there committed to pre-marital chastity, and that somehow my perception had been warped by my life experiences. Also, that I didn’t have enough data to back up my assertion that the vast majority of women will give up their purity if the right man is asking.

certificate-of-virginitySo, are there organizations that say, “Virgins found in here, y’all?” If you are not around or affiliated with a social or organized church group, then, is there a Chastity GPS app I don’t know about?

2. Low N Count Women

It’s generally assumed that low N Count is better, but it only takes one Alpha Cad to ruin a woman for life. There are articles floating around out there that still suggest that having multiple sex partners takes a greater toll on women than it does on men, even though there can be pronounced effects on both genders. So I ask, if you’re a man considering marriage, is low N count acceptable to you? And how low? Single digits? What’s the cutoff number for acceptability?

3. Carousel Riders

Much has been said in the Manosphere about this topic, but the fact remains, women prefer bad boys:

So you need to realize, that barring unusual circumstances, any woman that you meet over the age of 13 is going to be excited about the carousel, and won’t be worrying about marriage until she feels The Wall approaching. That means for a man that hasn’t learned Game, ex loversor is not a natural or self-developed Alpha, your wife prospects are primarily going to consist of ex-carousel riders. Remember, that in today’s environment, women no longer understand why being an ex-carousel rider looking for a husband would be a problem.

4. Single Mothers

You have no way of knowing, ever, if a woman is telling the truth about the number of men she’s been with. When there’s a child involved, however, you have living evidence of how you will never have a relationship just with her. It will always be with the child, and the child’s father, regardless of where or who he is. Judgy Bitch deals with this topic better than anyone I’ve seen yet.

So I’m still trying to ascertain how, given today’s climate, a man that is interested in marriage should approach finding a suitable wife.confused-man1

Financial StruggleThis article was written last month, but I just discovered it through Red Pill Reddit. It is pure gold:

http://www.elle.com/life-love/sex-relationships/why-every-woman-should-get-a-prenup

Favorite paragraphs:

But 18 years later, when I divorced my husband, I had a successful writing career and some money in the bank. He got to take half of it. But it isn’t even the fact that I had to give him half that I find so egregious. It’s the alimony he demanded I pay him on top of it that makes me very, very angry—like scream-really-loud, get-drunk, and eat-gratuitous-carbohydrates angry. On the first day of every month, I have to write him a mother^#%*ing check for six thousand dollars. I’ve been doing this for two and a half years. I’ve got five more left.

How did this happen? Because California divorce laws are antiquated and ridiculous and favor the less successful spouse. You’re probably thinking that he must have been raising our children, while I was acting as the breadwinner. Nope. We don’t have any. The state of California says that I’m supposed to keep him at the standard of living he got used to during our marriage, even though he’s no longer my husband. So despite the fact that he has a master’s degree and more marketable job skills than I do, I’ve had to give up my quality of life in order to maintain his. I can now no longer afford such luxuries as cable TV and haircuts.

I mean, it just doesn’t get any better than this. A perfect example of why the Feministic claim of wanting “equality” is complete and utter crap, because the second equality is actually applied, a woman is screaming bloody murder. Understand this: women do not want equality. Women want all the privileges of being a woman, and all the privileges of being a man, and none of the responsibilities of either.

Here’s the SubReddit I got the above link from:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1x9i5s/screenwriter_of_legally_blond_has_to_pay_alimony/

Women don’t understand that Marriage 2.0 is just legal prostitution until they’re on the losing end of the deal. But unlike prostitution, there is actually no expectation of services; a spouse doesn’t have to do anything inside of a marriage, and an ex-spouse doesn’t have to do anything but collect a check. Strangely acceptable to women as long as they’re the ones collecting the checks.0519_alimony

Cersei-cersei-lannister-31147140-1279-691“When you play the Game of Thrones…you win. Or you die. There is no middle ground.” ~Cersei Lannister

Know what needs to happen, stat? Men need to accept the above axiom as the bottom line for relationships with females. The Female Imperative(seek the strongest seed, ignore all but the top prospects, secure the highest amount of status & resources possible while giving away as little sex as possible, and at any sign of weakness? Seek a new target, lather, rinse, repeat) is completely incompatible with the Male Imperative(spread your seed into as many virginal young fertile prime wombs as possible, and lockdown said womb to ensure purity and paternity of seed so there is no wasted investment of resources or skewed legacy). Let’s let Cersei herself tell her story:

Did you catch all that? Cersei was having the happiest day of her life, as she believed she had scored the Alphaiest of Alphas…King Robert Baratheon himself. Yet when she discovered he was weak in bed, and his drunken heart still belonged to his dead wife, she immediately, and without hesitation, cuckolded him. With her brother. Ensuring that every heir to the Baratheon throne would be an incest born, illegitimate abomination. And she’s proud of that decision.

Serial monogamy and never ending polygamy don’t live on the same street. Your life as a man is either going to be living your dream, or living her dream. Your dream can only be achieved through Game and continually elevating status, even if you want access to just one womb. If that womb is wrapped in the youngest and the prettiest flesh possible, you have no chance for impregnation without swagger and bling. And you will soon discover that you have to plate spin even if you have only one plate.

ball-and-chain-cake-topper01If, however, you do as most men and get chumped into living her dream, you are going to spend your life giving her every resource that you have: time, attention, money, energy, regardless of how much sex or respect you get in return. She’ll either Girl Game it out of you or legally enforce it out of you, or both. You might negotiate a Hall Pass, but only the highest status men can do that; if you’re Bill Gates, your wife is not about to give up that lifestyle just because you got some side poontang. It’s also why Hillary stayed married to Bill. She’d have never gotten as far career wise as a divorced woman, as an ex-first lady. Would not have happened. If you’re a janitor, however, better call your lawyer. It’s a slow death for most men, as they have to find a way to suppress their natural desire for polygamy for 40 years; God help you if you are a Christian man, because nowadays your wife and the Pastoral mangina you serve under even count masturbation as cheating. Do you get that? You signed up to have only one legitimate source of sex for the rest of your life, and you have to continue to Game it to keep it active. If not, it will get old, fat, bitchy, take all that you have, including your offspring, and leave you to rot with no remorse whatsoever. And she just might do that anyway, especially if a better alternative presents itself and you have been slumming into BetaLand just a leeetle too long.

Lord Baelish, Lord Varys, the Tyrells, and the Lannisters, they never rest. Petyr-baelish-1024They sleep with one eye open. They have spies. Their walls have ears. Know why? Because they understand that the tide can turn at any minute; all it takes is one decision. And the most Blue Pillingest of all families, the Starks? Those that put duty starkand honor and love above all else? They keep dying. Slaughtered. Because they don’t understand what game they’re playing. Men have not yet accepted that women don’t care about you beyond your usefulness to them. This is why initial Red Pill shock is so intense; because most men have no idea how easily their woman can replace them with another workhorse.

The big raging debate around the ‘Sphere these days is whether or not Game is compatible with Scripture and Christian values; my contention is that that is the wrong question. And that’s because it’s partly rooted in the fallacy that there’s a difference between Christian women and non-Christian women. Whether a woman is a believer in, and a follower of Christ or not is irrelevant to how and why she responds to you. That’s what people seem to keep getting confused about. The women will keep trying to insist that they are submissive because that’s what God tells them to do. Wrong again. Because they are not submissive to Beta men. Only Alphas; the dominant, the strong, the fun, the confident….The Gamers. Do we understand yet that the only way to ensure that a young lass will keep her purity is to basically lock her down, surrounded by a constant guard of father and brothers? She is driven to find the worst thug, criminal, or player possible to deflower her, and there is no way for her to avoid that path besides isolation. The only difference among women is NOT whether or not they have that drive….only whether or not they will submit to that protection. Otherwise it’s over, those legs will open like a Wal-Mart on Black Friday. But for some reason, Christian men seem to completely ignore the following verse:

I Peter 3:7 – Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Did you get that?? ACCORDING TO KNOWLEDGE. Knowledge about how women work. And because she is weaker than you. Your strength, your knowledge, your confidence, your leadership, your dominance. These are the qualities that lead to tingles, and tingles are what lead to submission. She’s not gonna read the Bible and get wet over you. She’s gonna respond to how you treat her. Just like God said she would.SUBMIT

Ephesians 5:25-27 – Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; that he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, that he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

There it is again….she only gets wrinkle and blemish free because of what you say to her.

And you think that God doesn’t use Game? Guess again:

Deuteronomy 32:21 – They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. 

Matthew 21:43Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Provocation to jealousy and anger with the threat of a new lover, and a threat of removal of resources….any of that sound familiar?
So once and for all men, stop thinking that Game is a contradiction of your faith or vice versa. You will scream, “BUT THEY USE GAME FOR FORNICATION!!!” Guess what? You have to use Game to attract a potential bride and Game to keep her. If you don’t have any Game skills I hope you can get used to loving your hand; that’s the only thing in your life that’ll be singing Here Comes the Bride. So I don’t care if you’re living holier than a cargo ship full of Swiss cheese, women are only going to respond to you the way you want them to, whether girlfriend, fiance, or wife, because of Game.
And if you don’t understand or accept that, you will die a slow death.DIE SLOW

The Answers

Posted: January 17, 2014 in Life, Marriage, Men, Women
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Question 1: What’s the Real Reason Women are Submissive?

submission

Answer: because biology. Because tingles. Because Alpha. Because spankings. Not because Jesus. All of a sudden submission is coming back into fashion for some reason, and Laura suggests it’s just another ploy. I have maintained that All Women are Red Pill Women; it’s the men that wake up. All you have to do is check out the Red Pill Woman Reddit with scrutiny, and you’ll see the eternal truth in action: women want to be where the men are, and get male attention and validation, and they’ll do whatever it takes to make that happen, even feign enlightenment about things they’ve always known. Women were made for submission, and they long for it; but they are merciless to any male that does not step up and claim his rightful dominance over her. Never forget that Jenny Erikson is the poster woman-child for what Christian women will do with a Beta Supplicant Husband. And that’s leave him on the first thing smoking. Funny how Biblical submission never seems to apply when a woman is turned off or has her man whipped. I wonder where Jesus is then? Tingle free = my vows don’t count anymore(if they ever did). And Leif just keeps on trying, bless his poor, clueless beta heart. What someone needs to tell Leif is that his daughters are next. They are going to walk all over him and use him as well.

Women that are trying to be submissive to a spineless pee-filled pusbucket of a man are so disgusted that they start to throw up whenever they think about their husbands, especially Christian women. Apparently Jesus’ love does not include Betas.

Question 2: If you’re truly a Red Pill man, why would you ever get Married?

1342371026665_1839313Because being truly Red Pill and participating in Marriage 2.0 can’t even co-exist in the same universe. So as I’ve examined what the men have said:

Answer: 1) Because the sex was really good 2) Because she’s interesting outside of bed as well 3) I just decided to take the risk anyway

So in other words, sex and hope. Which is another tacit admission that they really don’t believe that AWALT and they do believe that their wives won’t pull the trigger at some point. I sincerely hope they’re right; Marriage 2.0 is nothing but risk for men, with no reward that you can’t already have without being married. Game only works because women want to be gamed; without that characteristic, we’d all have to Neanderthallically clock our potential mates in the head and plant our seeds. My belief has long been that women don’t cheat not because they don’t want to, but because they don’t have access to the men that they find exciting enough to cheat with. If a man with more power is in her vicinity, your lovely wife is mentally doing some very nasty things to Mr. New Male. Even if a woman is the wife of the Mayor of a city, when the Governor of the State walks in, don’t you think she wonders what it would be like to live in the Governor’s mansion?

The harsh and completely perplexing truth is, some of the sinful aspects of Game actually work. Which is why talking about this gives me a headache. The thing that energizes your wife to stay with you the most is if she knows you’re potentially cheating, or could cheat, or, you just flaunt your harem in front of her. That will ignite such desire in her it’s indescribable, but it’s still not about you as her husband; it’s about the fact that she’s not going to let some other woman prove that her wiles have no power. Such a shame. But the more women that want you, the more women will want you.

So guys say that if both the big head and the little head are singing happy tunes, they’re willing to take the plunge. Alrighty then. There’s gonna be some powerful case studies about this “Red Pill Marriage” thing around 2020.

Mark my words.red-pill-300x199wedding-cake-mistakes

2012-celebs-topic-why-did-i-get-married-tooOne of my readers has summed up what I’ve been trying to say precisely:

DaPoet says:

Unfortunately one of of the many things those in the so called manosphere have in common with the feminists is the surrendering of one’s independence by conforming to the opinions held by the majority of the group. This is why I’m neither a feminist or an MRA.

Any red piller claiming to be happily married is either:

-ok with his wife holding a gun to the side of his head with the hammer cocked back and her finger on the trigger, Or

-believes that not all women are like that or

-his woman isn’t like that and/or

-is ignoring the salient fact that he has no rights whatsoever nor any power within the marriage.

All of which are characteristics of blue pill males.

This is what I’ve been wondering/trying to ask Red Pill men that are married. Why, exactly, did you get married?

married-men-happierI would like to hear from happily married men. My blog is about men taking the Red Pill, and understanding how male/female relationships actually work, vs. the way we think they work, and/or what we’re taught to believe.

If you’re in the Manosphere(so we can hear an accurate testimony and not a PC one), and you’re a happily married man, give your testimony on this post. Specifically what I’m looking for is:

-Testimony as to how getting married was a good choice

-Specific details about the joys of marriage for you

-Whether or not you’d highly recommend marriage to men that are seeking it

-If you’re a person of any faith, how your faith has helped in your marriage

Let’s hear from the happily married men!mm

groom1I briefly talked about the quasi-flipside of this question here. I now have to ponder the issues of what would motivate today’s man to enter into a covenantal, contractual relationship that’s almost 100% stacked against him, knowing full well that the authority of the State is also aligned against him, no matter what, once he signs. Let’s take a look at the factors that men generally consider when choosing a bride:

Virginity – Nothing as attractive as a woman that will be all yours sexually, at least initially. Some guys have weird sharing fetishes, but barring that, this gives your future wife a chance to bond with you and only you, with no other men to compete with in her head, heart, or body.

N Count – This is teachmanhuge in terms of the number of sexual partners she’s had before you. Statistically that will determine her likelihood of Frivorcing you, and most likely her ability to bond with you.

Age – As I’ve said repeatedly, she will look her best and freshest between the ages of 15 and 30; after that, she’ll start to hit The Wall.

Physical Beauty – This is deeply subjective, but it’s always a factor for men. Most of the time, it’s the deciding factor as to whether or not we’ll even initiate the relationship.

Respect, Public & Private – This is pretty simple; her attitude and behavioral manner towards you in any setting.

Disposition – Is she sweet, sour, sassy, all of the above, and most importantly, how often does it change?

Personality – What kind of person is she, and does her style of living life gel with yours?

Children – Her willingness to give you any, and whether or not she already has some by another man.

Her Income – Old school men were raised with the expectation of being a full provider for the family. New school men expect their potential wives to work. This will tie into children as well, if the decision is made for her to become a SAHM.

Domestic Skill – Her ability to manage a house, including finances, cooking, cleaning and any other domestic duties necessary.

Previous Marriages – We’ve got funny ways of defining “committed relationships” these days, so I’ll count marriages, as vows were actually taken with some other man at some point.

I’ve talked extensively about what can happen if you’re Frivorced, and anyone that’s been in the Manosphere understands the social and legal climate’s aggressive hatred of men. I’ve also listed Men’s Groups and suggested that each reader join one in his area to begin to work on changing the aforementioned climate.

My question is…..is the right combination of the above elements enough to make you want to jump the broom? Let me hear from you gentlemen in this poll: